Breaking Free From Shame: Inside the BodyByMindset Bariatric Retreat
Welcome back to The Weight Loss Collab! In this special episode, hosts Dr. Betsy Dovec and registered dietitian Hannah Schuyler, are joined by bariatric therapist Lora Grabow for an exciting announcement—the launch of the very first "Body by Mindset" retreat in Orlando, Florida on September 12 & 13, 2025. With over 20 years of experience supporting patients through obesity medicine and bariatric surgery, Lora shares her passion for helping people move beyond the surface of weight loss and dive deep into the work of breaking free from shame.
Listen in as the team discusses the importance of community, the power of in-person connection, and what makes this retreat different from anything they’ve done before. From the agenda’s actionable mindset tools to the supportive, judgement-free environment they’re creating, you’ll hear all about why this retreat is perfect for anyone on a weight loss journey, regardless of where you’re starting. Plus, they share how they’ve made this transformative event accessible, fun, and welcoming for everyone.
If you’ve ever felt weighed down by internal shame or have longed for deeper conversations and connections in your health journey, this episode, and the retreat itself, are for you. Get ready to meet your community, challenge your mindset, and discover that you are enough exactly as you are.
Interested in coming to the BodyByMindset retreat? Get all the information and register here: https://bodybybariatrics.com/bodybymindset/
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Transcript
She's a doctor. Hi, I'm Dr. Dovec and she's a dietitian.
Speaker:Hey, I'm Hannah Schuyler, and together we are the weight loss
Speaker:collab. And today we have a very
Speaker:special guest. Laura Grabo is here. She is the
Speaker:bariatric therapist. She is an obesity medicine and
Speaker:bariatric surgery therapist who's dedicated over
Speaker:20 years of your life, your career, to
Speaker:this work. Yes. It's so good to be here.
Speaker:We're so happy that you are here and you're in Florida.
Speaker:Yes. Lora lives in Michigan, so we brought her down for the day.
Speaker:Whirlwind. Yeah, Just a whirlwind trip down to Orlando to
Speaker:come hang out and do this and talk about some other things that we'll get
Speaker:into in just a second here. Yes. So welcome. Feels
Speaker:so good to be here. I wouldn't miss the opportunity. It feels lovely.
Speaker:Excellent. So one of the main reasons you are here, we're going to
Speaker:dive right into it, is we are planning our Body by
Speaker:Mindset retreat. This has been something you've
Speaker:thought about. I don't want to steal your thunder. You are the brainchild of this,
Speaker:and Hannah and I are along for the ride, and we're loving what
Speaker:you're coming up with. Like, tell everybody what this is and why
Speaker:you want to do it. Yes. I have been
Speaker:thinking about doing something like this for years. I'm absolutely
Speaker:honored that Body by Bariatrics and your team, especially
Speaker:you, Dr. Dovik, is hosting this for my first one ever,
Speaker:obviously working in the field as long as I
Speaker:have. I have been speakers. I've been a speaker at several
Speaker:patient events. Obviously, I do your Project Reset program.
Speaker:I facilitate other groups. I have my online course. But I always
Speaker:wanted to do something deeper and something
Speaker:longer because so much of my work, I feel like
Speaker:I just scratch the surface when it comes to mindset. And I
Speaker:wish I could spend more time with my patients, walking
Speaker:alongside them and guiding them through more
Speaker:clinical experiences than just teaching
Speaker:and chatting a little bit. I mean, we go deep in our Project
Speaker:Reset groups here at Body by Bariatrics, but. But
Speaker:we just need more time to build community. That's the other piece. Right.
Speaker:So I'm so passionate about community. As you know, I
Speaker:say over and over again, community is treatment, community is
Speaker:treatment. And there's nothing like bringing
Speaker:patients together. And so I've been dreaming about the
Speaker:opportunity to bring patients together to do
Speaker:a educational event, but maybe even deeper than that, a
Speaker:clinical event that focuses on mindset
Speaker:skills. So hence Body By Mindset was born. Oh,
Speaker:my gosh. Well, talk a little bit about what the event's going to be
Speaker:like. Like, what's your vision for those who might want to do
Speaker:this? Right. So, yeah,
Speaker:the vision. How much time do we have? That's how passionate I
Speaker:am. So feel free to, to jump in. I have so
Speaker:much to share about it. When I think about
Speaker:the vision, of course I'm most excited
Speaker:that it's in person. Yes, we know that really great work can
Speaker:happen through a screen and has been happening virtually, but
Speaker:there's nothing like building community in person.
Speaker:My vision for this event is that yes,
Speaker:it's important to have fun social events among patients
Speaker:and it's important to do the pictures and have fun.
Speaker:But what I've really heard, and that's really my passion is I've listened to
Speaker:patient voices, is they want more, they want
Speaker:more. They're looking to go deeper with a credentialed
Speaker:expert. And so my vision is I kind of put it all
Speaker:together. Can I talk about the model a little bit? So, okay, so
Speaker:spill it, spill it, spill it, spill it. So the very first
Speaker:Body by Mindset retreat will be here in
Speaker:Orlando, Florida. And yes, I will be in person September 12th and
Speaker:September 13th. September 12th is going to
Speaker:be that fun meet and greet, mingling,
Speaker:getting to know each other, evening activities
Speaker:happening on Friday here at the amazing Surgical
Speaker:Institute. And then on Saturday we are going to have
Speaker:an all day event at the beautiful Bay Hill Country Club
Speaker:that is really going to be focusing on a,
Speaker:a topic that I think we all experience with our patients every
Speaker:day is we see their courage
Speaker:to be vulnerable and grow.
Speaker:But that can't happen with what I know as a therapist and people have
Speaker:heard me talk about without breaking free from shame.
Speaker:And we are hearing a lot in the
Speaker:community, rightfully so. I'm happy that we
Speaker:know that our patients have been affected by
Speaker:shame, you know, weight stigma and weight bias, which leads to
Speaker:an internalized sense of shame for years. For
Speaker:years. And what I also know as a
Speaker:therapist is there's a lot of unhealthy coping skills
Speaker:to deal with that shame. Things like emotional eating,
Speaker:isolation, skipping your intentional movement.
Speaker:And I am finally excited to provide a healthy way, a
Speaker:healthy way to break free from that shame. So on Saturday,
Speaker:it's going to be some speakers from experts that, that we may know
Speaker:around here. I don't want to give too much away. We're going to have a
Speaker:patient share and then in the afternoon, it's
Speaker:really going to be an intensive of
Speaker:gosh, how did I say it to you, Betsy, when I was talking.
Speaker:We see our patients lose external weight
Speaker:with bariatric surgery. We see our patients lose external weight with
Speaker:GLP1 medication. But in my
Speaker:role, I see them continue to be weighed down by eternal
Speaker:weight, internal weight of shame.
Speaker:And still, yes, we see some confidence building in their self
Speaker:worth and finding their voice. But
Speaker:sadly, having the surgery or being on a
Speaker:GLP1 medication doesn't help our
Speaker:patient to realize that they are enough
Speaker:right now. They are enough right
Speaker:now. And I still find them looking for sources of
Speaker:their validation, you know, to be validated from external sources
Speaker:that people pleasing that show there. And
Speaker:I can do everything myself and not letting people in. And what I know as
Speaker:a clinician is that's all based in shame. So our
Speaker:afternoon is going to be intensive with me. I'll be doing some stuff of course,
Speaker:Saturday morning too, but the afternoon is really an
Speaker:intensive with me to break learn what shame
Speaker:is all about. What are our shame shields, how to break through
Speaker:and then building our sense of self worth
Speaker:with self compassion. I love it because like
Speaker:I'm so excited for this. I think, you know, it's kind of just like this
Speaker:brainchild of yours. Like you said, you've been thinking about it for a long time.
Speaker:So I'm glad we can really bring it to fruition. And I know that with
Speaker:you, one of the best things that you do is you always make sure that
Speaker:people walk away with like actual actionable steps. Because
Speaker:sometimes so much too. We can talk about this all day long and people can
Speaker:listen to podcasts or they can read books or they can do whatever and it's
Speaker:like. But if at the end of it there's no like, and then this is
Speaker:what you do, then it's like that's all for naught. So I know
Speaker:that that's something that's gonna be like a take. There's gonna be takeaways for people
Speaker:at this. Hannah, you nailed it on the head. The whole retreat is
Speaker:a takeaway. So what I know. And of course you know, I wanna give credit
Speaker:where credit is due. The leading researcher and expert on shame is the
Speaker:amazing Bernie Brown. And and I will be utilizing some of her
Speaker:work. But what we know about Shane is that one, we all have it,
Speaker:right? So not just our patients, all three of us right here, experience shame.
Speaker:Absolutely. We all have it. We all don't want to talk about
Speaker:it. And the more we don't talk about it, the more it grows. So shame
Speaker:grows when it's just kept in secrecy, in silence.
Speaker:So what is the antidote of shame? Bringing it out in the light,
Speaker:realizing you're not alone, thinking, being able to be with other
Speaker:patients in an experience that says, me too,
Speaker:me too. I mean, I see it in Project Reset virtually, but now that
Speaker:we're going to be in person in an event that we will
Speaker:slowly be building up trust, I do. If someone's like freaking out right now and
Speaker:is like, oh, my gosh, I don't have. No one's going to be required to
Speaker:share. There's going to be a lot of activities for quiet journaling and
Speaker:reflecting small group
Speaker:experiences. Yeah,
Speaker:it's at your own comfort level, but that's the first takeaway, Right?
Speaker:Like shame. Shame. Shame can't survive when it's dosed by
Speaker:empathy. And that's what's going to happen on this retreat.
Speaker:And Absolutely. Action steps. I mentioned things
Speaker:like the journaling,
Speaker:you know, an exercise on shame shields. Another
Speaker:thing I'm thinking about, I don't want to give too much away. I won't describe
Speaker:them in empathy circle, some type of
Speaker:ending to really mark the milestone of the great
Speaker:work that they're going to do. I think
Speaker:I'll probably call it letting go and letting in or
Speaker:something like that. And just some powerful experiences around that. As a group of
Speaker:patients, I love all of it. I've seen the agenda and I'm
Speaker:watching it come to life. And, you know, even the patient's story of how
Speaker:you're using this shame and changing it to strength.
Speaker:And again, it's a testament to this particular
Speaker:patient has been coming every week and working so hard with you during
Speaker:the Project Reset sessions that are all, you know, really focused on
Speaker:different topics and making sure that those come
Speaker:prepared, thinking about it, how it pertains to them
Speaker:so that they can leave and it's really productive and that inefficient in that
Speaker:small period of time. But, you know, some people are huge.
Speaker:Not just, you know, lovers of working on their own mindset,
Speaker:but they've been huge followers of yours and they've
Speaker:been coming to these project resets. So they might be thinking, like, is this like
Speaker:more of the same things I've already been doing? I know you said that, you
Speaker:know, this is fresh. There's going to be some things you've never really done or
Speaker:shared before, like a. How do you even keep your content? Like,
Speaker:you're so good with words. I'm like, always, like, just
Speaker:enamored by, like, what you're saying. Just like on my own personal
Speaker:development journey myself. But, like, how are you going to keep it
Speaker:fresh for all, for all the people that already know and love you?
Speaker:Yeah. So, well, thank you. And I think it's important to know that everyone
Speaker:is invited to this retreat. You don't just have to be a member of Project
Speaker:Reset. If you are listening to this podcast, watching this podcast, you are
Speaker:invited. If you're a medical, surgical, you know, pre medical,
Speaker:pre surgical, you are here. Anyone? I mean, like we said, we
Speaker:all have shame and we're all working on our relationship with food.
Speaker:How do I make it different? Yes, it's absolutely different than my Project
Speaker:Reset classes. It's different than my online course.
Speaker:The reason being we have one theme throughout
Speaker:and I get to spend more time on it, and I've never had a
Speaker:place to do that. Right. So even if you think of past speaking
Speaker:events, I only have an hour. Right. So I have been
Speaker:able to sit and design an entire package, which is
Speaker:why I'm so thankful to you and your team to come and roll
Speaker:it out. And, gosh, where
Speaker:do I get my content? Patient stories. I think
Speaker:we're always learning. Like, I hope I never get to the point where
Speaker:I'm like, oh, yep, I know everything, because there's
Speaker:always something I can learn. And because I do
Speaker:so many groups a week and individual sessions a week, I continue
Speaker:to hear their pain and it gets in the way of them having
Speaker:success on their weight loss journey. It
Speaker:absolutely gets in the way. Yeah.
Speaker:So. But again, again, like, everything you do, it's just like, sit in
Speaker:it, be in it for a minute. Yeah,
Speaker:no, I think it's going to be amazing. And so one other thing that's been
Speaker:really important for us is this, to be accessible for everyone. And
Speaker:so talk a little bit about. How we're trying to make it accessible for everyone.
Speaker:Well, the price point. Right.
Speaker:Everyone's like, okay, okay, okay, good. I'm ready. Ready. I
Speaker:think our listeners hear the word retreat and they're thinking, oh, I
Speaker:won't be afford. Be able to afford to go that. Go to that. For
Speaker:Friday night, all day Saturday, including
Speaker:meals, our price is $99.
Speaker:Yeah. And, you know, we still know that that's still not accessible.
Speaker:And we'll, you know, for some people, but we were hoping that that's a
Speaker:number that. Well, I think it's going to make. It okay for some. For a
Speaker:lot of people. Yeah, let us know. I know,
Speaker:let me know. I'm the worst. I'm like, sure.
Speaker:Because I do, you know, when we. We.
Speaker:The first time I've seen you, people have heard me tell the stories many times.
Speaker:You were presenting. I didn't really know you at all.
Speaker:I was. I saw you present to a group, and there wasn't a dry
Speaker:eye in the place. People were crying. They were, like, leaning in. I've
Speaker:never seen an audience in person with.
Speaker:There was just, like. There was just a buzz in the air. It was like
Speaker:people were leaning in, and I was like, who is this? So I, like,
Speaker:beelined it up for you. We chatted at that retreat, and
Speaker:I was like, we gotta do something. Taking me a couple of years, but
Speaker:here we are. We finally have the physical space. And,
Speaker:I mean, this is just. I just. Your potential and what's
Speaker:inside your head and the creative genius that you are. This is
Speaker:going to be. It's going to be amazing, and
Speaker:I can't wait to be a recipient of it. I'm going to be there every
Speaker:moment. And like you said on Friday, like, we're going to ease in. We're not,
Speaker:like, jumping right in for the tears, you know, we're like, we're easing in. You're
Speaker:like. You say we're building trust. We're getting to know each other.
Speaker:We want people to leave. I always love to say strangers leave us friends
Speaker:and. And how. How we can do that, you know? So Friday
Speaker:night is going to be the fun, you know, swag
Speaker:bags. You get your name card. We're gonna do some icebreakers,
Speaker:led by the one and only Hannah Skyler. Hannah
Speaker:actually used to do this for camps back in the
Speaker:day. Camp counselor, y'. All. I just learned that today. I love it. Yeah.
Speaker:So I will definitely pull some of those Camp Hannah skills out. So
Speaker:if I, like, like, do something make you all get quiet, don't be surprised.
Speaker:You'll be amazed. Okay. Get the room quiet. Wow.
Speaker:I can't wait to see what she does. How much practice? It's been longer than
Speaker:I care to admit. I love a good icebreaker. I love a good
Speaker:icebreaker. That's so funny, because I feel like so many people hear that word, and,
Speaker:like, they're like, cheesy. It's cheesy. And you know what? Maybe
Speaker:it is. But it's gonna be fun. And, like, they do get you out
Speaker:of that. That uncomfortable bubble because everybody feels
Speaker:a little awkward, and then, you know, you start laughing or figure out whatever it
Speaker:is. So we'll make sure that they're fun. It might be cheesy, but it'll be
Speaker:fun. Oh, yeah. And we'll have food, drinks, the whole thing. And when you talk
Speaker:about awkward, people want to know the next question. What do I wear? Yes,
Speaker:that's a great one. So we were talking about this earlier and we're saying just
Speaker:be, you know, casual, comfortable, you know, wear
Speaker:whatever you feel good in. You know, we're not going to be doing a lot
Speaker:of like movement or anything crazy like that. Maybe some stretching or something in the
Speaker:morning, but, you know, don't, don't feel like you need to be. I mean, if
Speaker:you feel comfortable in a ball gown, like show up in that. But I
Speaker:might, I don't, I don't. So I'll probably be in jeans and
Speaker:body by bariatrics. T shirt. I think I will too. Yeah. Jeans. And
Speaker:you'll get a short comfortable. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:I just want people. Yeah. September. So it, it's, it might be hot
Speaker:still. So maybe it was shorts and T shirts, sundress.
Speaker:Yeah, whatever you want. And I think that's,
Speaker:that's been part of the con, the concerns I've heard too, listening to patient
Speaker:voices like, yes, this is a very exciting event and we
Speaker:want as many people as we can to get there, but we don't want any
Speaker:hindrances of, okay, well, what do I wear? And
Speaker:am I gonna meet anybody? Am I gonna know anybody? Like,
Speaker:we're gonna take care of all that. We want you to just come
Speaker:and share your story if you're comfortable, receive some
Speaker:education, receive a lot of support,
Speaker:and of course, end with the treatment of community.
Speaker:Yeah. And the most amazing thing to me about the bariatric community
Speaker:is it is such a welcoming space. And you know, I don't know,
Speaker:you probably obviously know more about it, but like, I don't know if that's because
Speaker:there has been so much external shame on people or so much
Speaker:pressure on them to like not fit in that now they feel it's like, it
Speaker:gives you a place to fit in. But yeah, to me it's just so,
Speaker:like. So don't be nervous if you're coming by yourself or. Right. You know,
Speaker:there will be someone there to welcome you who has gone through
Speaker:a similar journey to yours. Yeah,
Speaker:I hear stories every day in my office. People who live in larger
Speaker:size bodies, they're othered,
Speaker:like I said, they experience weight stigma, weight bias.
Speaker:And I think you're exactly right, Hannah. That is why
Speaker:I think our patients affected by the disease of obesity excel
Speaker:at welcoming others in and accepting them. And I also
Speaker:think it's a general. I'm just, with
Speaker:my People like, you just know. Right.
Speaker:I'll often hear from patients, whether it's in a zoom group
Speaker:virtually or, you know, when I used to do groups in person, which, by the
Speaker:way, I'm so excited to be back in person. That's another thing I'm really excited
Speaker:about, too, is they say
Speaker:when I'm with other patients, it's almost like I can let my guard down.
Speaker:I come in and it's this.
Speaker:They get it. Yeah, they get it.
Speaker:And a lot of freedom, a lot of healing,
Speaker:a lot of rewriting the story
Speaker:can happen when you have that feeling. Absolutely.
Speaker:And I think for me, too, like, part of the takeaway is, like, hopefully people
Speaker:leaving with having that feeling in other spaces.
Speaker:Like, you don't necessarily. I mean, obviously we want you to be part of the
Speaker:community. We want you to build that. But, like, if you can take that feeling
Speaker:with you and feel more comfortable in different areas of your life, like,
Speaker:that would be amazing. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So, yeah.
Speaker:And even, you know, when you talk about people getting it, even things
Speaker:as simple as, like, the meals, like, what we order, like, we're
Speaker:cognizant of your diet. I'm going to check the
Speaker:diet. I'm going to check the menu. There might be deviled eggs. Like, you
Speaker:never know. Right. Well, it was interesting because I had a patient in an
Speaker:earlier group today, asked me, she's like, oh, I think I'll be like, two
Speaker:weeks post op. You know, like, will there be softs? I'm like,
Speaker:you're working with a bariatric dietitian. Like, don't let me know.
Speaker:I'll make sure, you know, this is, you know, again,
Speaker:you understand this is going to be what our patients
Speaker:need to be. And the plates will be small. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:We'll have a little something for everybody. We will take that into consideration. And
Speaker:also, even when you're eating the food, you don't have to worry about
Speaker:anybody. Like, you're not gonna finish that. Why are you eating that way? Like, no
Speaker:one would even question it. It's just natural. You're just so in your
Speaker:element. Like, you're saying. Yep. And if you pull out a calcium chew in the
Speaker:middle of a session, no problem. We'll just set timers for everybody. Every two hours,
Speaker:we'll take a vitamin break. I was loving my. I do, too. Actually. We
Speaker:should be like, it's time, everybody. Instead of coffee breaks, I mean, hopefully,
Speaker:in addition to coffee breaks, we can have vitamin breaks. You can help
Speaker:me write that part of the injection. All right. Perfect. Yes. We'll make sure there's
Speaker:all the vitamin breaks. Vitamin breaks. And wow. We'll get like
Speaker:propel packets for everybody. Stay hydrated. We'll just pull them out of your
Speaker:desk drawer, actually. Yes. Kind of a complete attitude to it. So I'll have them
Speaker:there for myself so I can just flavor up that ice water. Perfect. Or
Speaker:room temp water. I get that too. Some people don't like ice afterwards. Yeah.
Speaker:I think another thing that we haven't mentioned yet that patients
Speaker:are looking forward to. I know we're. The three of us are looking forward to
Speaker:too, and other staff is they just want to hang out with us and that's
Speaker:that Friday night vibe as well. Like, yes, we have our professional
Speaker:role in your lives, but we're real people and we're human
Speaker:and we want. I think that's something Body by Bariatrics excels
Speaker:at is patient care connection at just the connection level.
Speaker:And that's what Friday night's going to be all about. And I think we've talked
Speaker:a little bit about Saturday night. An optional activity for us all to hang out.
Speaker:Yeah. Something that might be. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. And
Speaker:we, we are very much so human. And I mean a
Speaker:lot of you out there who are going to come with the patient that we
Speaker:have as a speaker, we become friends. You
Speaker:know, it is, it is so interesting how I benefit like as well.
Speaker:It's not just patient to patient. It's like the relationships that I've built
Speaker:and over the years. For example, I had a
Speaker:patient from over 10 years ago, Jeff,
Speaker:he's very open about his story. And Jeff's daughter
Speaker:wants to go to medical school and she thinks she wants to be a surgeon.
Speaker:And so this, I mean, this is from Baltimore. She goes to the University of
Speaker:Maryland. And he said, do you mind if she comes down and shadows you? So
Speaker:she's been shadowing me for the last two weeks and
Speaker:ah, she wrote me this card and it was just so awesome.
Speaker:She was like, you know, it was just like, I don't know, just seeing,
Speaker:I guess my life through her eyes and just how.
Speaker:Oh, I guess I helped to potentially like influence or help
Speaker:somebody like with their life's path. And that's cool. And I
Speaker:mean, that's what we do all the time, you know, with our patients. But I
Speaker:just, I love, I love these real connections that, that we've
Speaker:made. I really do. Yeah. Yeah. And that is again, that's really what I think
Speaker:is going to be. Of course the teachings are going to be a big takeaway.
Speaker:But I think that community sense is also going to be something. And then,
Speaker:you know, when you do kind of break down in those. Those walls and you
Speaker:come together in this type of space, you do get that, like, deeper connection. It's
Speaker:not just, oh, we hung out at that, you know, event and we took
Speaker:a picture together or something. It's like, oh, no, we. We cried together.
Speaker:We're good, you know. Yeah. We shared our stories. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. And so, yeah, I think that's definitely like, just that
Speaker:deeper connection that then you can take on with you and
Speaker:continue this work. And. And that's something else. I mean, Laura, like, for. For
Speaker:this, like, what I think. Are we gonna. Are we already just gonna plan the
Speaker:next one before we've even done this one? Well, I hope so, because I'm mentally
Speaker:doing it, so. You're doing it. Yeah. This is gonna be our thing. Yeah. This
Speaker:is the prototype of many. Yeah. I mean, which is why I'm so
Speaker:excited to do my first one with Holly by Barry. I. Yeah, right. I'm so
Speaker:excited because you've promoted my vision from day one and
Speaker:believe in what I do and was open to bringing the mindset
Speaker:piece into your practice, and I'm so thankful
Speaker:for that. And, you know, on a personal note,
Speaker:I'm kind of jealous of you guys because you have met so many of our
Speaker:patients in person, and I haven't, so I'm so
Speaker:excited to actually hug them in person. If
Speaker:you're a hugger. If you're not a hugger, I'll respect your space. And it's not
Speaker:just our body by bariatric patients. So much of my work is online.
Speaker:I think that's important. We should mention. We mentioned we do have a hotel.
Speaker:Yes. Right next door. And. And, you know, stay tuned for,
Speaker:you know, discounted rates on that. I would
Speaker:love to see my patients fly in for this. This has been requested.
Speaker:And I mean, if you can make it happen, make it happen. Stay
Speaker:an extra day. Go to the parks. Right. Go to the parks. And
Speaker:as a therapist, you would never get this level of education for the price point
Speaker:we're offering it at. Yeah. And that's like, such
Speaker:a dream. That's like, I love it because we can do it. We have the
Speaker:space, and we have the vision, and, you know,
Speaker:make it happen. Just make it happen. Yeah. Yeah. We're not trying to make money
Speaker:off of it. We're just. Is a true passion project.
Speaker:And that's. And that's what it is. And I think you know,
Speaker:just this idea of the topic of shame and
Speaker:breaking free from it and how you're going to kind of peel back
Speaker:these layers and to get to kind of that core.
Speaker:You know, I think it. I think it is really brilliant. I think it is
Speaker:the topic. I think on a personal level, like, like you said, we
Speaker:all feel it. And I think that just the learnings from it are just
Speaker:going to be awesome. It's going to be awesome. Yeah.
Speaker:So, yeah, just tell us a little bit more about just, I don't know,
Speaker:I think just like that topic or just things or just how you feel.
Speaker:Like this is something that, like our closing remarks
Speaker:here that they have to do. Like, people, you don't want to miss out on
Speaker:this. Like, why? Like, why? One more time, Because I know
Speaker:they are hungering to dive deep. I know they are
Speaker:hungering to dive deep. Our patients know, as the experts on their
Speaker:life, that, yes, surgery was a wonderful tool.
Speaker:Yes, GLP1 medication is a wonderful tool to treat their disease
Speaker:of obesity. But they know there's something missing
Speaker:and they're getting it. To use a food analogy, they're getting
Speaker:appetizers, they're getting small meals of it in
Speaker:our classes and in my talks. But now it's time
Speaker:for the full feast. And I
Speaker:know the hunger is out there and I'm ready to help fill it in a
Speaker:healthy way. I love it.
Speaker:I do, too. Well, so when is it again? Yes. So to go over all
Speaker:the details, we'll just finish that up and we'll make sure this is all
Speaker:in the show notes and everything as well. And we'll. You'll see us everywhere. Don't
Speaker:worry. So it will be on Friday, September 12,
Speaker:and Saturday, September 13, in Orlando, Florida.
Speaker:So Friday night we will be at the Surgical Institute of Central Florida,
Speaker:and then on Saturday, we will be at the Bay Hill Country Club.
Speaker:And so we'll obviously make sure you have all of that information. The
Speaker:cost is $99. We will have information coming
Speaker:about discounted hotel rates. There's one directly next door to the Surgical
Speaker:Institute of Central Florida. And then, you know, we'll make sure that there's
Speaker:connection to. To people beforehand if they're interested, and, you know,
Speaker:reaching out and saying, hey, I just want to make sure that, you know, like
Speaker:I said, everyone is very welcoming, but if you want to make sure you can
Speaker:chat with somebody beforehand or anything like that, we'll make sure that
Speaker:the community is there kind of leading up to it,
Speaker:and so. You feel supported coming in and all are Invited.
Speaker:We've stressed that. But you don't have to just be a body by bariatrics patient
Speaker:or a patient of mine from when I was in Balt. Like none of it.
Speaker:We, like you said, you don't even have to be a patient of
Speaker:anything. You can just want to learn about this
Speaker:topic. Come. We want people there like
Speaker:pre op. Post op, non surgical patients,
Speaker:whomever, all are welcome. I mean, don't we
Speaker:all want to break free from shame and learn to be kinder to ourselves
Speaker:and show up to ourselves? Show up to ourselves with self
Speaker:compassion. I think we're all experts at showing up to others with
Speaker:self compassion. But now we're entitled to show up to ourselves with that
Speaker:same self compassion. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I'm just kidding. I do want to
Speaker:learn that. I know she's having a deep moment here. Sorry.
Speaker:She's like, I have a big thought here about this self compassion
Speaker:and ever being. Dr. Dovid, can I ask you one more question? Yes.
Speaker:I'm just curious, as the surgeon,
Speaker:as someone who prescribes GLP1 medication, why
Speaker:do you think something like this is important? Like, you know, there's so
Speaker:many out there who's like, just write me the prescription, just give me the surgery.
Speaker:You know, Hannah and I were talking about that because we've been kind of doing
Speaker:the behind the scenes, like hype and real and videos, and we're just
Speaker:trying to, you know, put the content together to advertise this. And
Speaker:Hannah and I were like, what is our role in this exactly? Like,
Speaker:what are we gonna do? And we were both just saying, like,
Speaker:well, we are here to make sure that, yeah, she does all
Speaker:things nutrition and like, food. We're always talking about food. Give me a
Speaker:recipe, give me a meal plan. You know, what about my macros? Like,
Speaker:yeah. And obviously that stuff is extraordinarily important.
Speaker:Mine were, you know, in the operating room, I'm doing the procedure. Making
Speaker:your stomach smaller. Like all the technical aspects, I think of all
Speaker:of it, mine is like the most minor role. Truly. I really know
Speaker:that. And so, and like you said, like, this has always been the
Speaker:missing piece. And why am I still saying it's the missing piece?
Speaker:And there's not. There's just not that many people. I feel like
Speaker:there's not enough resources and people,
Speaker:again, with your very specific expertise in this
Speaker:part of kind of therapy and shame and how it
Speaker:relates to food and emotions and, you know,
Speaker:all that, I think that there's just a lack of resources for
Speaker:whatever reason. And you're only one person, so
Speaker:you can only do so many one on one visits and so many group sessions.
Speaker:So what is again the most efficient way to
Speaker:really allow the largest group of people to
Speaker:benefit from all that you've done in over two decades
Speaker:in one place? And it's like a no brainer. And
Speaker:to put something like this on, especially for someone like you, that's such a
Speaker:key opinion leader in our space and have never done it before.
Speaker:There's really never been a true retreat dedicated
Speaker:to just mindset and head work and to even have a small role
Speaker:in it, do a little speaking in it, be in the, in the
Speaker:group as a kind of a recipient of your learnings and
Speaker:teachings and all of that. I mean, I'm thrilled,
Speaker:I'm thrilled to be there and sort of be with Hannah
Speaker:and other members of our team as sort of the supporting
Speaker:actors to your main show here. And
Speaker:it's going to be cool. It's going to be awesome. I'm so
Speaker:excited. So excited. I know, like we said,
Speaker:we've seen the agenda. We know what you're doing. We know what we're of course
Speaker:going to be a lot of fun. And the giveaways that we, we
Speaker:have. So there'll be surprises, there's gonna be all kinds of good
Speaker:stuff. So like don't have FOMO 99.
Speaker:You got this. Come on. Totally got it. Invite a friend.
Speaker:Yeah. Am I shaming people into coming now? Am I kind of.
Speaker:She's like, you better feel the shame before you come. Yeah, bring that shame. Really?
Speaker:Make sure. Breaking it out. Breaking it out. We're breaking it out. No,
Speaker:you're absolutely, you're not shaming, actually, you're encouraging. Encouraging. I
Speaker:encouraging you. That's my project reset on the motivation piece.
Speaker:Yes, you are. Motivating you. Because
Speaker:people aren't motivated by shame. No. But sadly, our
Speaker:patients have been doing it to themselves for a long time and their healthcare teams
Speaker:have been doing well. Everyone has been doing it. So it's time to, to come
Speaker:together and break free from that. Love it. Yes. All right, well,
Speaker:as always, you can find us all on Instagram at the bariatric therapist.
Speaker:Bariatric dot therapist. Bariatric dot therapist. I'm so sorry. That's okay. At Hannah
Speaker:Schuyler, Rd. At Dr. Dovik, at the weight loss collab. At
Speaker:Body by bariatrics. Whoever you want to find, we're there. Yes. Follow all of
Speaker:us. And the most important thing. The link. The link to register. The link to
Speaker:register. Bodybybariatrics.com
Speaker:bodybymindset Excellent. So lots of body
Speaker:buys there. Yeah. Bodybyberiatrics.com
Speaker:body by mindset check it out. Our website has lots of
Speaker:information. We have an FAQ section. We have a lot
Speaker:about like little teasers about the agenda. You'll get a little bit more about it.
Speaker:So yeah, make sure you go to the website and we will see you
Speaker:on September 12th here in Orlando. Safe travels. Can't wait to see you
Speaker:then. Bye. See you then. Bye, guys.
Speaker:Sam.
