Episode 13

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29th Apr 2025

Bariatric Surgery FAQs: Your Essential Guide to Starting the Weight Loss Journey

Welcome back to The Weight Loss Collab! In this special episode, "Bariatric FAQs," your favorite duo—Dr. Dovec, bariatric surgeon, and Hannah Schuyler, registered dietitian—dive into the most common questions about bariatric surgery and weight loss. After sharing a heartfelt update on the grand opening of their brand-new Surgical Institute of Central Florida (and the emotional rollercoaster of getting there), they get back to basics, breaking down everything you need to know as a prospective patient.

From choosing the right program and understanding insurance qualifications, to prepping for your first consult and navigating pre- and post-op dietary guidelines, Dr. Dovec and Hannah give you a transparent, behind-the-scenes look at the bariatric journey. They chat about why communication, community, and convenience are at the heart of their practice, and address real-life patient concerns—like insurance coverage surprises, out-of-state travel, post-op recovery timelines, and lifelong nutrition tips.

So, whether you’re on the fence about bariatric surgery or already preparing for your first appointment, this episode is packed with practical advice, candid stories, and the compassionate support you’ve come to expect from The Weight Loss Collab. Let’s get started!

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She's a doctor. Hi, I'm Dr. Dovec, and she's a dietitian. Hey,

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I'm Hannah Schuyler, and together we are the weight loss

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collab. Nailed it. Nailed it. And we're back

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together. I know. First time just you and I in this space. In

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this space. I know we've had some amazing guests the last couple of episodes,

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but we just like it being us. I know we do.

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So lot's been going on. I know it has. Tell me about what's

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been going on. Yeah. So we. This is our first episode since

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we opened and did surgeries in the

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Surgical Institute of Central Florida. What a day that was. It

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was awesome. It's a day I will never forget.

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Like, okay, let me tell you guys, I know a lot of people

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follow us on Instagram, and they know the story, and they've seen the

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footage of it being dirt and then, you know, going up in

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cement blocks. And then ultimately, like, we were getting close. And then you

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get the approvals to do it, and you can finally do it. I mean,

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I've said this many times, but I just completely

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underestimated this project. Oh, yeah.

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Well, how can you. I mean, you don't know what

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you're getting into. And it's like, oh, it's a building. Right. People build buildings all

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the time. Right. But then there's layer on layer on layer on layer on layer

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on layer. And then even things like looking back to some of the

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approvals. I mean, a hurricane impacted all of this and,

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like, pushed our timeline. And it's just like, things that you can't even

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factor in going into it. That it's like, oh, great. Our

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inspection was, you know that there was a hurricane. I know. And

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it's. And it's. Talk about being dynamic. It's like, even looking at

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people like you in the very first day. You came

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before 6am to be the front desk.

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Yeah. Being somewhere before 6am is a big deal.

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Just, like, to put that out. I don't know if you noticed, but

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Aaron, my husband, when he saw you, he kind of started to cry.

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I was gonna ask if he cried that night because there were three distinct moments

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that he almost cried during the day. Well, he was like. One of them was

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about you. Yeah. He said, when I saw Hannah that morning,

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like, just choked me up. Like, because

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this isn't just like, oh, coming to my work a little early. This was.

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I. I'm there and I love you. Yeah, right.

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Exactly. It's. It's a little bit more so. Yes. No, he did tell me that.

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And I was like, well, I gotta tell him the bug guy was there.

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And, you know, because obviously we needed our bug treatment the first day we

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were operating. Definitely. Definitely we needed to. I went to ask if we

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needed anything indoors. We didn't. No bugs inside. And I

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was walking up, he's like. Hannah, just thank you for being

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here. And then later with the nurses, he was just like,

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I know it's really busy, but if you guys have, like, one minute, I just

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wanted to say how thought thankful I am and all this. It was really sweet,

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but I was like. I feel like he just. He. It. It's been a lot.

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Oh, actually, then it was really funny because then you came out and you needed

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something and he's like, what do you mean? Like, back. All

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right, back down was. That was sweet for a minute, but. Like, oh,

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yeah, yeah, that was a moment. But it is. And like. And

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that's kind of been, like, what's been powering me is this, like, visualization, this

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manifestation of this moment of having the bed

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leave after a first successful case that we didn't

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miss one detail that was like, mission critical. Like, just trying to get the

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medications and everything stocked and the supplies and the people and the

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trainings and the inspections and the. This, like you said, layer upon

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layer of things that when you look at it, I mean, I've been doing

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this in and out of a hospital for over 20

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years, right? Like, when you really think about it from medical school, and you're like,

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I know it. I know my surgery's inside and out. I know every supply I

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need. I know all of this. But when it comes to ordering it and

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is that the right IV that the nurses want? It just.

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We didn't forget any major details. And we went

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through many, many, many, many kind of like trainings and mock walkthroughs

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and just to be in there and then it kind of was anticlimactic, to be

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honest. It wasn't. I mean, it just. It was just kind of humming right away.

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It was like the nurses were just being nurses and they were taking

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care of the patients and they're bringing them where they need to be and they're

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helping them out and they're charting and, you know, just. Just out.

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It's quiet, you know, I mean, it was. We did five cases that day, and

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of course it was staggered, so there were never more than, like, I think two

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patients, really, two, maybe three, kind of in the pre and post op

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area at a time. And so it was Just, like, kind of quiet

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back there. And, you know, there were reps and things, but

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it's a big enough space that it never felt, like, crazy busy or overwhelming. And

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I don't think anybody was, like,

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panic. Like, nobody felt like they were rushing through things. Everybody was

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just, like. Just through their day. Yeah. It was just like another day. I can't.

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When the lights went down, the. Or, we always talk about that, but when we

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turn off the lights, we'd perform the surgeries in the dark because we're looking at

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screens and it just lets you see it. And I

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literally just felt like I was any Operation Planet.

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Yeah. I guess I was kind of trying to get, like, into the emotions of

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it and think, like, man, this was, like, just an

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idea. And then it was something that we built. And I was standing in here,

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like, with my jeans day and just, you know, like, with a sloppy

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ponytail on a Sunday, like, trying to, like, wipe something

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down. And. Yeah, like, no, it just feels like a regular

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old gastric bypass, which, I. Mean, is what you really want. I know. You know,

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we did. We did talk about getting balloons. Really? And then

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we realized Party City has since closed, and so we

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could not find a balloon location. And then actually, funnily enough,

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I, in my personal email, got an email from Michaels, like,

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yesterday that was like, we're now selling balloons. So I texted

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Aaron and I said, hey, FYI, some future balloon needs. We can

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go to Michael's. I know we needed that balloon with the number one. Yes.

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Is that the most important balloon of all time? The one. You know, we've

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done a lot of cases, a lot of things, but, no, it was

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a huge thing. I mean, truly, thank you for

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there. And just not even that. You guys have no idea about the behind the

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scenes of, like, Hannah has just, like, just.

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Is just malleable. You're like. You just, like, bend and twist into

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whatever we needed to do and. Oh, yeah.

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So I feel now like. I

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don't. I didn't realize it, but it was just kind of, like, dark. Like, it

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is, like, it's dark, and it doesn't feel like you're ever going to come out

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of this cave. And by doing these surgeries, I do see light. I feel

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like there's, like, a little sliver of light. We're not quite out yet in terms

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of. There's a lot of things to happen. Like, okay, like

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I told you, I went to the gym for the first time in, like, a

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year. Yeah. And that was. I don't know, like, when you look at

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it. Like, okay, am I losing myself here? This process?

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Am I, like, losing my family? Like, if

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I. What is fun? Like, right. I don't,

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like, have, like, free time or fun time. I, like, put so

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everything into it. I felt like, this. So much immense pressure. But now

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that it's like, okay, patients are coming and people see it, and then

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when people are like, it's beautiful here. I love the experience. The

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nurses and everyone was just so kind. This was just so great. I'm like, it's

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all worth it, and it's going. And you can see it now. Absolutely. All right,

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let's do this thing. Yeah. And we've already done another day, another

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couple of cases. Like, and that's the great thing, too, is, I mean, we have

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the team on the other end on Body by Bariatric side that has just kept

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things humming along with that. And then they've so

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seamlessly transitioned those people over to this

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facility that has been just. It's like, okay, great, we're

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gonna. We'll take care of all of that. And so, I mean, again,

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not without hiccups and trials and

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just all sorts of things that have to go in place. But we figured that

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out, and it's like, okay, now it's just. Will become business as usual.

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Oh, so true. And thank you for bringing that up. I do want to

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acknowledge all the people behind the scenes.

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You know, the whole team, like, you, like, Body by Bariatrics is still

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going. And, you know, and now it's like, okay, I get to

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come back. And it's like, I'm, like, reinvigorated, and we can't wait to

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now truly open up our doors and let people

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in and just get taken care of here. Yep. That's

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what we're going to do. And so today, to dive in, thank you for

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letting us kind of recap our feelings about all of this.

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Yes. We are going to be talking about bariatric

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FAQs. Yep. Back to some basics. Yes,

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basics. We did a podcast episode. A

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few. It's been over a year now. Yeah, it was two years.

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It was called Barry After Potpourri, and I relistened to

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that. And I think that's what kind of got me started and thinking. I. I

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was telling you that listening to my, like, tone and my

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vibe, I'm like, man, I was, like, free. Almost,

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like, blissfully ignorant to what was to come on this

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journey. Like, I'm building a surgery center. We're having so much fun starting this

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business, and I want to get back to Almost that vibe and that

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topic. And we are going to kind of

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start with the journey even before it's a journey I have, like

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that pre op. But even before then, when you're still just

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contemplating if you want to do this and some of the

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questions that you have as a consumer, as a potential

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patient to get you in the doors virtually

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to maybe our practice, maybe somewhere else, like, how do you

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come to this decision? Like, we talk a lot about the

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why, like why you want to do this. Yeah, I think that is the first

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thing. It's like you have to make that decision that

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either you're in it, which a lot of times when people, when I talk to

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people for the first time, they're like, yeah, I've made this decision, you know, it's

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not a question of, of if, but when.

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Sometimes I get people who are still on the fence and things like that. They're

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like, I'm going to go through the process and see and see what happens, blah,

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blah, blah. But most people, by the time they get to us, have decided. So

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I think that's the first thing. It's just like deciding like, yes, I am going

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to investigate this. I am going to get into

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this somehow. And that's, that's the first

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like commitment piece to yourself. And then it is, it's

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finding, okay, now where do I go and, and where do I,

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what do I do? And I think, like, I guess, I mean, I'm. I'm

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guessing most people just Google it, right? I. So, yeah, that's how we

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find anything, if anything. And you're looking at it. You're looking at reviews, you're looking

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at websites. I talk a lot. I do consulting all

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over. My passion is I want to increase access to care. And all

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those who qualify for bariatric surgery, less than 1% get it. And so I'm

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obsessed with, before I die, that number changing from 1% and

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beyond. And whenever I'm looking at that,

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I think a lot of programs make a barrier to

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entry. Absolutely. And that is something that we try

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constantly to fixate on our actual

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process of getting you in because it's

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already kind of intimidating a little bit.

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Definitely have to get vulnerable, like all of these feelings to decide,

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like, I'm putting my information in our club. Like, yeah, okay, just did

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it. And okay, what happens then? Like, what is

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the tone from the practice and what do. What kind of communication

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happens? And I think this is where we

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are setting ourselves above because of the way we communicate. Yeah,

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yeah. So if you're not a Body by bariatrics, patient or you've never heard

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us before, anything like that. We text all of our patients and it is

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the most seamless part of our communication, I would say, and part of our core

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value really, because we'll talk later a little bit about our three Cs and all

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of that, but that's one of the big ones is communication. And

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so you fill out that form and you're getting a text directly from us,

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and that's going to be a person answering you anytime that you respond

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to that. We don't have a chatbot, we don't have AI

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answering like that is somebody. And

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oftentimes it's somebody outside of business hours time. A day's

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a week. Yes. So that I think is the first step. So I think if

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you're looking for a practice, like, look at that, what is that

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first step? Like, is it some complicated form that's. I mean,

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our form is not the shortest, I'll say. It's got. You have to answer, you

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got to give. If you're doing insurance check, you have to put your insurance info

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in and things like that. But you know, what, what does that look like? Am

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I waiting for a call for somebody that maybe never

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comes? You know, it's like, click here to get started and oh, well,

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we'll call you. And then it's a week later. And you, you know,

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there's a lot that can go through your mind in that time. And so, you

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know, just, just having that ease of communication, I think is, is clutch with

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anything really. You know, we talk about this with our, the med spa

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that we also have. And it's like, you don't want, you want to be able

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to just to go on and click, click, click and be done and not have

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to think about it. And, and that's kind of what we want as well. I

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mean, think about it obviously, but, you know, just make it easy. So

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easy. That is like always the first thing. So other things

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to look for, I think in a program would be, like you said, reviews. I

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think that's really important looking at the providers. You

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know, obviously we know the bariatric community, it's a lot of

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women and I think a lot of times people would like to see a female

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provider if possible. So if that is something that is,

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you know, important to you, looking for that, looking, you know, for some people,

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proximity is going to be something that's important. Now we will see patients from

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all, all over. We're fully virtual as well on the consult side. And so

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we can see patients from anywhere and we'll talk again about some self pay things

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later that that may be helpful for people in other parts of the country. But

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you know, looking at realistically for you, what. Yeah, what do you need? Where do

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you need to be going? So what else can

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we look for? Well, people also want to know like is this

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right for me qualifies for this. Yeah. And

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you know, this is something that we kind of disagree

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with. It's really hard to have a

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consensus or a standard or some sort of guideline.

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Mainly for insurances they have to have like rigid cutoffs so that it's like,

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all right, you're above this or you're below that. So that's it.

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So if you're using insurance, they do base it off of

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bmi. Now about a year or so ago

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they finally, after like 25 years

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updated the consensus from the National Institute of Health

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and from the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery based on

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BMI body mass index that if your BMI used to be,

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used to be that if your BMI was greater than 35, you probably

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qualified. But now some insurances are getting more progressive because

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the evidence shows you're going to benefit if your BMI is greater than 30

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and you have weight related issues or greater than 35 without, without them. Yeah.

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But we are still seeing, you know, sometimes it's that 35 and

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40 threshold. Yes. So definitely. And that's something again that

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our program, any program can check to see if you have that coverage and what

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that cutoff would look like. Yes, there's BMI calculators online

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to search it pretty easy. And you know, sometimes

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you're right, right there. And so you know, we're going

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to, we're going to check it, we're going to see what's going on. Yeah. And

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then also for some of them, actually this is one that we don't see too

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often. But people of Asian descent, it's actually lower on most of them. It's

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32.5 for with a comorbid and I think

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37.5 without

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for patients of Asian descent. Exactly. So I

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mean there's just so much improvement with all of that. So again,

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if you want to see if your insurance covers, it's a free benefit

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verification, put in a front and back picture of your car, you can even text

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it to us and then we have a service that we will check

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it for free and we'll tell you not only if you have coverage, if you

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do, will also tell you what your estimated out of pocket expense might be.

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So we explain, we really simplify again, and we have a whole episode on

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this. But we explain things like copays, deductibles,

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coinsurances, maximum out of pocket

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expenses if it's been met, if it hasn't, if you need to work

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out a payment plan, if you need to finance it, the hospitals, the

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facilities, the Surgical Institute of Central Florida, we can work out those

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sorts of payment plans and arrangements. So again, we want

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you to be able to have these procedures and that's a huge thing

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we're going to. We've been really hitting it hard lately about going to

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Mexico, which is something that people do because

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again, they want to have surgery and they want to make

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absolutely certain that they can afford it.

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Yeah. But also we want you to have the best results. And

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again, what I have learned from this entire process is

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enough. And I'm kind of glad. Not kind of. I'm very glad to learn

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about all the backgrounds on risk management,

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infection control, quality assurance, the

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random pop up inspections that can happen. That they just want

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to make sure that everything is, you know, checked and balanced and done

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correctly. Yeah, that stuff. I mean, I had a patient the other day

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who told me about a time that she went to

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Mexico. She had a sleaze and that right before they were reeling her

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back, she said, hand to God, they had a garden

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hose. Like, they pulled out the green hose and they legit

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sprayed off the operating room table from the

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blast person. And she literally saw like, now I know that has a technical name,

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bioburden, which is essentially like, like blood

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and tissue and stuff off this table with a

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garden hose. Oh my God. But anyway, when I heard that, and then it's like,

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okay, to the point of no return. I'm here, I'm like, they're really

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me back. There's like a language barrier perhaps. It's like,

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I guess I'll do it. Dear God, please keep me safe. And then that's the.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to get a sleeve. I need to be read

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then, oh. My God, her sleeve is horrible. Yeah, I have a theory on that.

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We'll, we'll get into that. I don't even know how I got on this. This

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we're talking about like finding a program, but honestly, her sleeve

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was performed so bad. And then this poor patient has really

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been blaming herself, thinking that she. Why didn't I lose much

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weight? I think my theory on it is every Mexico sleeve that I've

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seen is so huge because I think they just want to get you, they take

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out like a sardines worth, they shove you back on the plane to the U.S.

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they want to make sure that you're not like vomiting and dehydrated. It's like, oh,

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I'm doing pretty good because they didn't take out any stomach. Yeah. So it's like

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didn't do it right. No. So fixing that and all that sort of thing. So

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anyway. Yes. Do your research, get your

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insurance tag. Yes. Hopefully we have an affordable, some sort of solution. Yeah, absolutely.

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And, and on back to the insurance really quickly is I think a lot of

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times we get people that, you know, text us or reach out and they're like,

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I'm assuming my insurance doesn't cover it. And it's like, well, you'd be

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surprised how we have people that. Or they find out not only does it cover

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it, it's covered at 100% or 90% or whatever. It's like great

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coverage. Like absolutely. So yeah, always reach

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out. It tend, doesn't hurt to check it. And the worst that we say is

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no, sorry, you know, you don't have, you have an exclusion and you don't

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have coverage. Yeah, exactly. And some, you'd

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be shocked. Some employers opt into having coverage that's so

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phenomenal that I get to tell people they've already approved

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it, you have a 100% coverage. Not only that, they'll

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pay you, they pay you to get healthy. They literally will pay for you to

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have your gas, your mileage on your car. You would pay for

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a hotel room to stay the night before after

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surgery. They'll pay sometimes for your vitamins. Like there are

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actual plans that is like, oh, so

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like I kind of make out on this deal 1 million percent. Yeah, absolutely. So

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yeah, yeah. Amazing. Well, yeah, that, you know, that's pretty

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amazing. Absolutely. So you get into the program,

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all is great. So then at the consult, so tell

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a little bit about our way of doing the console. So the

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console is a two part virtual console. Yeah, I said that before in

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my life. So basically you do like what we call like a group

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session and that is where everyone joins. It's via

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zoom. It's private though. Like you don't have to be on camera, you're not going

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to talk. It's just you, it's almost like a presentation or like a

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kind of like what sub programs would, would make you go through before you could

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see the doctor. But this is going to be live, it's with you. Everybody joins,

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they watch you do A presentation. You talk through our whole process.

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You talk through the surgeries, kind of give a background on bariatric

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surgery. And then after that, that same

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day, you'll see each of those patients one on one. And so

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that is when we get your history beforehand. So we know a little bit about

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you. We're sneaky like that. We get your, your

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history so that you guys can then have a conversation, you or Dr. Lane

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and the patient then can have just a conversation, find out what's going on

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with them, what are their goals, what has brought them to this

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point. I know you've said before, like, people get really vulnerable in that

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one. You hear lots of stories. So I think that there's, you know,

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that that initial consult is really vital and, and

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having that, like, really personal discussion. And so we try to take care of a

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lot of the, like, you know, you don't want to sit there with your doctor

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who's asking, okay, have you ever had a heart attack? Have you ever, have you

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ever have it? Like you'll fill all that out with one beforehand. So they already

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know that. So, yeah, that's that. And then

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basically then they get a checklist. And this is determined generally by

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the insurance. And then there's a few things that clinically you might decide that somebody

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needs. But if they need the psych evaluation, if they need nutrition consult,

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if they need ongoing nutrition education for a certain period of

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time, like, so we're going to send everybody like a customized checklist.

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It's not just okay here. Now you have to go through a six month program

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because we said so. And we'll see you at six months when you're done.

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Like, no, if you don't need that, we're not going to make you do that.

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Of course you're always welcome. If you, if you want to have a consult or

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you want to talk to me or anything like that, you can do that.

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But we're not going to make you do a bunch of unnecessary burden

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to get to surgery again. You've already taken this vulnerable step

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and you've gotten in front of us. So we're

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going to keep it moving. So you'll get your checklist, we'll

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follow up with you. We've got a team that does that on the back end.

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Leslie, our girl, we love her, she's going to keep track with you. She's going

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to text you, hey, you got your psych evaluation yet? Or what's going on? Or,

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hey, I got it done. They said they sent over the thing and she's like

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I never got it that she's on email. Like where is this person's thing?

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And then they send it over to her. She's actually really nice. She doesn't sound

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like that. So yeah, so

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we'll keep track and then that brings you to your final consult. Yeah.

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Now people will ask all the time like well why do I need a psych

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eval? Why do they need a psych

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eval? That's an insurance requirement. So I think

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it's really outdated to be honest. And I know that, you know,

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mental health professionals might have, might disagree. But it's not that we don't think that

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mental health portion of this is important. It's like what is this evaluation

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actually telling us? And so really what the goal of

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it is is just to make sure that there's no like glaring things that

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are saying that you're not going to be successful with surgery is kind of my

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understanding of it. Like do you have a disordered eating?

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Do you have suicidal ideation? Do you have any of these other

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things? Like it's only surgery. I feel like that requires this. Oh yeah.

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Besides there's probably a couple others but. I mean this is the main one.

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Yeah. It is so outdated. So like people will ask all the time if

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they're going the self pay route or if they're using. If, if your insurance

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company does not have that on there. Like you just said, I don't make you

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do that. Right. I. We talk about this constantly

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but I do think like therapy helpful. Great. A one time psych

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eval. No. What's it going to do for you? Yeah, I mean, you know the

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answers. It's like they might be looking for like a hardcore like

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drug problem but I mean

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no, we just doesn't, we don't get that weeded out

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or whatever. No, no. And, and yeah, I just don't think

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it's. I think it would be more beneficial to say hey, we just like you

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to meet with a therapist once beforehand. But then also the insurance would need should

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cover that. They said the frustrating thing is they require these

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and then it's very hard oftentimes for people to find one that's covered by

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their insurance. Yeah, it's nuts. Or even your visits, like I didn't even

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believe that some of these insurances require all these visits with you and then they

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don't pay. Right. So we'll like just eat it. But it's like, well why

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is that? Yeah, it's not right. It's not right. Because this

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is their Game plan? Yeah, pretty much. It's like who's

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behind the, who's the wizard behind the screen?

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So yeah, so you'll do all of your requirements. You'll have your

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two part virtual final consult. And during this, this is

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where a lot of these FAQs are going to come to light. So people, during

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the initial consult, and I do like to keep the initial one very high level.

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Again, getting to know you, your goals, your

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struggles, your just your history. Like you

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said, help to decide like, okay, here are the surgical options. I think

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this one's better for you. This is why I want you to do your homework.

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Make sure you understand. Okay, so that's more high level. Then we really

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drill down. Then it's like, all right, buckle up. This is a very dense 60

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some page bariatric surgery success guide that we've gone through.

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And we start off right out of the gate on a pretty intense. On

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one of the topics about the multivitamin in calcium citrate.

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So we get questions all the time. Do I have to take this for life?

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Yes. Why do I have to take it for life?

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Because for the rest of your life you're not going to a most

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likely meet your nutrient needs from food alone. Most people

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aren't anyway, like, let's look at the realistic American diet. Like

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people aren't meeting what they need. So then you limit that by portion. You

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maybe are limiting the types of foods that you're choosing again, especially early on. Right.

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Longer term, maybe we're more flexible with what we're eating. But like you're

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limiting the types of food so that limits the nutrients. And then you're,

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there's malabsorption of those nutrients, especially in our bypass patients

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that you're not getting. Everything is not

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utilized that you're taking in. So we need to supplement.

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So you have to take it and it's at higher doses because we're kind

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of having to overcome that malabsorption threshold.

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And I've, I've read too that there's even some degree of malabsorption with the

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sleeve, but not quite. Like the bypass, which is part

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of the bypass is magic. But you know, I think that

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that's, that's part of it and that never changes like that. This is a surgery

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that permanently alters your anatomy. So why would it change after a

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year? You know, so yes, you are going to be on them

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for the lifetime. Find one that works for you. It might

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take some trial and error. If you can find a good bariatric one, a

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Day for your multivitamin. That's perfect because it's one a day,

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like, that's it. And then you'll take calcium citrate three times a day.

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And again, you just want to find the one that you tolerate and you like,

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you know, some common things that we might see. This is another one. Especially

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after I've, after you've seen patients and they come to me for a consult or

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ongoing treatment, whatever it is.

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A lot of people come to you and say, you know, I want the sleeve.

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And then you're like, actually, I think the bypass would be better. And there, the

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question is always like, but, you know, what about the vitamins

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and this and, you know, long term. And it's like, yeah, people that had the

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bypass 30 years ago maybe had some issues. We didn't know,

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you know, so now we know better and we do better and all of that.

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But also I'm like, we keep an eye on things. And so the

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common things, we check it at six months, one year, and then annually from there

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on. And the most common ones, some of you agree,

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vitamin D deficiency, which my number one was called, again,

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common in the general population. I had vitamin D deficiency

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on my. I was like 29 and 30 is the cutoff.

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Come on. I was a teens. Oh, yeah. So anyway, we'll

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check it. We're gonna check it there. B12. And that one is

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also because we set a higher threshold than like the normal. Yeah. So we

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actually have a lower. A higher cutoff. So sometimes you're in that range, too.

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Yep. And then iron. Yes. Iron deficiency, anemia,

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kind of, those types of things. So we're going to check those. And then we're

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going to tell you how to fix it. We're going to say, go get. You

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know, if your vitamin, if your vitamin D is 29, we're going to tell you

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to take 2,000 IUs a day. If your vitamin D is 8,

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we're going to tell you to take 50,000 a week for 8 weeks and then

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we recheck and then we do that. Like, there's, there's protocols for all of these

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things. So, you know, that's, that's what we're going to do.

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And we're going to keep an eye on it. We're not going to let you

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just like walk around not knowing what's going on. And your primary is going to

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do the same thing. Yeah, and we, we do like to own that. So we,

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we do have lifelong follow up. We have Amber, our physician's assistant,

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who is Bilingual and so sweet and so

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thorough. Oh, my gosh. Hand holding. Wait. Can I tell you, though? The other

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day, I was sitting in here. We're obviously at the office today, and Amber's

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office is, like, just down the hallway. And the door was open. And I

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listen. I can't hear her talking, but I can just. I can't hear what she's

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saying, but I can hear her talking. And I'm sitting here, and all of a

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sudden, she is, like, cackling, like,

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cracking up, dying with laughter. And I was like,

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no wonder. She's like, say sometimes runs behind on her appointments. You

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know, she. What is she doing laughing this hard at appointment? Apparently, a patient thought.

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We told them that they couldn't have sex for 18 months after surgery,

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not that they couldn't get pregnant for 18 months after surgery. And she was

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like, no. And so they were both

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just, like, laughing so hard. But I was like, what's happening there? The other day?

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So that's. That's what you're gonna get with Amber sometimes. She's just gonna. You're gonna

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be laughing with her on your post. She's super personable,

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super sweet. What you see is what you get. She is. We're

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gonna follow up on it. We're gonna. We're gonna make sure that you are

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great. Because sometimes you might feel fine, but you really don't realize that you're not.

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Or you don't know what's going on. You're like. Because a lot of the vitamin

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deficiencies, too. People are like, oh, could this be a vitamin deficiency? I'm like, I

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mean, you're fatigued. It could be eight different vitamin deficiencies. You know, it could be

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vitamin D, it could be your iron, it could be your B12. Like, I don't

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know. That's why we gotta check and see. But I also think that's why it's

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important that we don't tell people just to throw a bunch of vitamins

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at. You know, like, we're not saying take a multi and zinc

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and vitamin C, and we do tell you to take iron, but, you know, like,

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additional vitamin D and blah, blah, blah. You don't pile. It's not like this

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huge stockpile of vitamins that you have. No. You get a really

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good quality bariatric, multi, and that's.

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You're good. And then if, again, if you need one or two additional things,

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fine. We're talking about something like an omega 3 or

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a fish oil or something, you know, for other health issues, you can

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absolutely do those of course, too. Yeah, we. We get questions about that all the

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time. People have different, very strong opinions about supplements. And

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they're like, you're not familiar with some random thing

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like, I'm not mashonda after bariatric surgery. I know. Actually,

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Irene was talking about the other day, wasn't she? About like, it helps with a

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bleeding and bruising. Interesting. It is not good if you've had a kidney

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transplant. I know that. Wow. I read one paper about that. But.

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Well, Hannah was a dialysis registered

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dietitian for many years in Chicago, which

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is very complicated nutrition. It's. Yeah, it's

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tricky. It is super tricky. Dialysis is the hardest thing. I always

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feel. I think. I think pre dialysis kidney disease is harder.

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You do because you're trying to prevent

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progression. So dialysis kind of just

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have to give up on some things because, well, you'll dialyze it out.

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Yeah, we're not worried about damaging your kidney anymore. So. Yeah,

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those things are. Yeah. Yeah. So favorite pathway

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here. So we get lots of questions about

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vitamins. Also they ask about just like, return

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to work. That's probably a big one. When can I go back to

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work? Well, I say you can take as little off as you want

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or as up to four weeks. So obviously you'll be off for the

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day of surgery the next day. You're probably pretty beat up. Yeah, I'd say the

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average is one to two weeks. Yeah. You. You help

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tremendously. The most with our practice on paperwork,

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FMLA work excuse notes, return to work with restrictions

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or light duty. A combination thereof. Yeah. So, yeah,

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I would say, you know, I always tell people, I'm like, it really

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depends on your job. That's the first thing. Like, if you're like me who

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commutes to their guest bedroom and sits in front of a computer most days,

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like, yeah, you have surgery on a Friday, you might be back on Monday

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not feeling okay. And especially if your job is like a little more flexible or

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understanding and knows, you know, you kind of are making your own schedule or

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something, if you're in a high demand, you're on calls all day

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or something like that, you know, it's. It's. Again, it's going to really vary. But

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then I have people that are CEOs in prisons, I have

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nurses, a lot of health care providers that are, you know,

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bedside. Like, those people might need a little bit longer. Or if

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you're somebody who's working like, like an Amazon facility or

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something, or you're moving a lot of materials, like, yeah, you're going to need

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a little bit longer. But if by four weeks you're not feeling well enough to

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return to work, we need to investigate what's going on because you should

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be 100%. Oh, God. Yeah. Ready to go back to work

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four. Weeks and feeling even better than you did before surgery, because at that point,

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you've already lost probably 15 to 20 plus plus

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pounds. Yeah. And you know, like you said,

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you're a little tired in the beginning. Yeah. So you're a little white. I mean,

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it is still a major operation. You're figuring out your nutrition. You're getting maybe a

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little bit less protein or fuel, and you might be a little ketonic. We talk

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about the keto flu, like, all of these kind of vibes. Totally normal.

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Some days are better than others. Yeah. But you're gonna figure out your flow

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and get things, you know, going. Some people are like, I'm taking off as much

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as I can because I just want to do this right. And they want to

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learn the. Your fullness cues. And I appreciate all that, too. I think

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it's great. If you can do it, that's fine. But also remember, folks, FMLA does

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not pay you. So, yeah, short term disability does, but

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FMLA does not. Yeah, short term disability only pays a percentage, too,

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doesn't it? 60 usually. Yeah. Still, it's not 100. Nope. So some

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people are like, can I go back tomorrow? And we're like, you can if you

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feel up for it. Like, we. If you're taking narcotics, you can't drive,

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so. And they make you tired and groggy and, you know. Yeah, that's why. But

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yeah. Yeah. What? Day after surgery? I would say. Yeah. I wouldn't push it

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that hard, but, yeah, maybe. I know. People fly

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back two days. We do. That's another great question. So, yeah. Talk

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about who. What are the expectations for time in town

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if you're coming and flying in from out of town or driving in from out

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of town. Yeah. So I would say if you're coming, you know, from out of

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state especially. Of course, we have people that come from different parts of Florida

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where maybe they're two hours away. You could do that.

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I mean, if you're. Depends on what time you have to be here, you might

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want to stay the night before, just so you're nearby and easy to get here.

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But, you know, if you're coming from out of state, you're driving for

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a couple hours, more than a couple hours, or flying, we

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want you there the day before. That way, if something gets Delayed your

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flight, you know, doesn't take off sometime or something happens. You're.

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You have some flexibility built into that. So we want you here generally the

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day before and then obviously day of surgery.

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We want you to stay that one day post op, and then the

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third day or the second day post op, you can fly back. So you'll

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stay two nights after surgery, basically. Perfect. And then leave out. And

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then, you know, when you're in the car on the plane, you just kind of

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want to be up and moving, you know, every hour, every one to two hours.

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Get up, get a wind, get an aisle seat so you can walk it up

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and down the aisle. Yeah, that's it. It's really simple.

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And that's the whole point. So we want to make it so that

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you, you come in, it's really nice, you can safely go back

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home. And again, everything's virtual. So you'll have all of your follow up

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care. We text you the day after. You can text

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us anytime, you can call us, blah, blah, blah. So there's, there's a lot of

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communication there as well. People will ask

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a lot about incisional care when they can get those incisions

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wet. What is, what is it like? From my

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understanding, they are waterproof, so you can get them wet right away. People

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go in the pool. I'm fine with it. Yeah. I mean, these incisions are

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so tiny. I mean, we do the most. Show me, show me. I want to

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see. Okay, so three of the four. There's four total. And we do less incisions

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than anyone else. You're never going to find a bariatric surgeon that does less than

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5. Yeah, because we don't use a liver retractor. So we only

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use four total, three or five millimeters, which is the tip of the

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pinky. And then one is 10 to 12 millimeters,

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which is the width of the thumb. Okay, now that's it. So we try to

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keep them very, very small. And then we put these little trocars in. And

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then we have our YouTube videos. If you want to watch us doing a gastric

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bypass, a sleeve or revision, you can check those out as well. And

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then we close it with a plastic surgery closure. So there's

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a we. I get asked all the time, do you have to come in to

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get this? The stitches removed? There's no stitches on the outside.

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They're all, they all dissolve under the skin. They ask if there's staples.

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There's no staples. There's nothing to remove. And then we, we basically

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throw One little tiny stitch to pull that skin edges back together. And

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then we put a thin layer of. It's called dermabonds, and it's a waterproof skin

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glue over them, just over that little area. Some people, especially

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if you have white skin, you might have some irritation with

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adhesive. So sometimes, like the tape from the IV Site,

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that might get a little red and irritated. Sometimes you'll see, like, little

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bruises around the incisions. And sometimes people will have,

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like, just a little focal irritation from either the

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chloroprep, which is the skin kind of what we clean it off to sterilize it

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with, or from the glue itself. And if that's the case, we'll just tell

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people they can pick it off a little early, but otherwise, just leave it be.

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It'll either fall off. If the edges start to pull, peel up, you can pull

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it off at that time. It might get a little bit just itchy after a

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while. Yeah. You know, I guess a snack on your clay. Like. All right. Yeah.

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Pull off this area. Yeah. It's like a liquid band aid, and that's it.

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They can swim, get them wet, take a shower that night. Some people just want

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to, like, let me get this gunk off of me. We try to scrub you

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down really nice so that it's like, oh, wow. But like. Yeah, we

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try to assure that everything. Looks like after being on a plane. You just want

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to shower. Yes. Yeah, totally. As and to that. That can help a lot of

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people. That, like, warm, steamy environment, I think helps people, like, relax

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a lot. And, like, just like, when you're sick, it's like,

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I've been sick the last week, and I feel like I just keep going. Standing

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in the shower. Yeah. Like, I don't have the steam. It feels great.

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Yeah. We talk a lot about showering. In terms of

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our thoughts, if a shower doesn't come into one of our weight loss collab

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episodes, it's not a good episode episode. So definitely

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shower. We also have an episode called, hey, I just had bariatric surgery.

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Is this normal? So go back and listen to that. We talk a lot about

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this first again. Minutes, hours, days after surgery.

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And we talk about some troubleshooting tips to help with the gas pains,

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the incisional soreness, different things like taking

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a shower and just relaxing. And I think it does make you feel a lot

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better. Yeah, no doubt about it. For sure. And then we get

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questions a lot about the diets. Yes, tons. That's the number. You're the

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star of this show. It does feel like that sometimes you. Really are

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more than the surgery. People want to know like I mean, why do I eat?

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Yeah, well because what do we do every single day? We eat and people have

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such a strong relationship with food and all of that.

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Ultimately I'm going to keep it brief. I'm going to just give some of the

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high level and then we're going to be coming out with another. We have a,

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we have some basic nutrition episodes already. So you can go back and listen to

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those. We're going to do another one to like just really get into it a

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little bit more in depth. But three meals a day.

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Yes. Protein at each meal, starch free diet.

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Those are the three key things I tell patients on that. I'm like those are

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the three things. If we can hone in on that, you're gonna

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be sitting pretty and so three meals a day, that's pretty

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self explanatory. Protein at each meal. All right, so what's protein are

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animal proteins. Beef, pork, chicken, fish, eggs, dairy

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products, Turkey, seafood, animal pro,

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animal protein. And then you have our plant based protein. So things like soy products

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like tofu, tempeh, edamame, tvp, there's

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seitan which is a wheat product. So and

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then some things, you know we're gonna have like beans, lentils, those are gonna give

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some protein, nuts and seeds, that kind of stuff. So having a variety

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of your protein sources, you wanna make sure that you're getting 20 to 30 grams

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at each meal. And then the starch free diet, this is

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arguably most the hardest part for most people. But I always say that making this

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change is harder pre op because after surgery you're just

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gonna get full so quickly that and your cravings are not gonna be there like

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they are before surgery that you're like, oh this isn't really that bad.

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Eventually you'll want to reintroduce them and that's fine. But like early on it's kind

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of like oh, most people are, they don't care, they don't, I don't know.

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So that's gonna be avoiding rice, pasta, potatoes, corn, peas,

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anything made from grains. Our high sugar things like candies,

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cookies, cakes, technically not starches, but I include them in.

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This is our sugary drink. So sodas, juices,

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lemonade, sweet teas, things like that.

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Any of those really high sugar things that we want to avoid.

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And yeah, that is gonna be the basics. So you're

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gonna choose your protein, you're gonna pair it with a non starchy vegetable that's gonna

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Fill up most of your plate, those two things together, and then we're going to

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include some high fiber foods like fruits, lentils, beans,

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nuts, seeds. Wow. I want to dive in so bad. But we're going to have

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a whole nother episode on nutrition, one on one

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bariatric basis. And like you said, we have a lot of episodes

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on the app. I'm very curious about your thoughts. I'm just going to put it

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out there on total net carbs and

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I'm really obsessed with that and I. You are as

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much. I wouldn't say I'm obsessed, but I use them. Okay. Yeah. So we're

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going to talk a lot about what is a net carb. Yes. There's total carbs

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versus sugar, alcohols, us, fiber reading. A nutrition label

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is a whole thing too. Yeah. We're going to teach you how to make sure

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that you do that. And that becomes, if it has a label, you read the

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label. That becomes such a part of just your

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automatic response to food and all. That kind of stuff

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until it becomes routine and then you don't have to do that so much. We

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know. So there's a lot of other FAQs out there. Oh my gosh, so

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many of them. I mean, we just got, we just got to the final consult,

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basically. Oh, this is like, there's so many things. There's

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all kinds of post op things. There's people want to know about hair loss, people

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want to know about their bowel habits, are they going to get more constipated, they're

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going to have diarrhea, they're going to have constant stomach issues,

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what is relationships going to be like? There's like just so many

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things. People constantly obsess over the unknown, like,

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yeah, what will this be like for me? And I think that it's really important

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to ask those questions. I think though, a lot of people

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get in their heads about some of that stuff. And ultimately if you look at

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people that are maybe not, maybe not even the first year post op, but

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that are a little bit further out, their lives are pretty normal, you

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know, And I think that it's hard to see that because in the moment you're

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like, oh my gosh, I'm making this huge life change. And it is, I'm not

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like going to minimize that for anybody. But ultimately, like, long

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term, that stuff's not going to be an issue. And

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I don't think people believe us when we say it. I definitely get,

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sometimes have people, usually it's like, gosh, I don't Know, three or four weeks after

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surgery, I'll have this, like, random, you know, visit on my thing. And I'm like,

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what's going on? And usually if somebody has a problem, they're like, well, this is

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what's happening. And then I get some people. I'm like, what's up? And they're like,

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things are really good for me. Okay, so why. Why are we

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on this call right now? Like, once, like, I. I need a

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problem to solve here. They're like, well, no, I just feel like it's just. Everything's

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been too good. I'm like, no, that's great. That's amazing.

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That's exactly what I want. And so, wow. There's that doubt in people's mind

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that it can't just be great. And I always tell people, I'm like, you know

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what? It. Part of it is that if somebody. What you see online, what you

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see people talk about is always going to be the issues, because they are looking

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for a problem to solve, and so they're putting it out there. I'm having this

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concern. I'm having this, like, you know, is not posting online the

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person who everything is going great for because they don't have a problem. They need

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to be solved. They're just, like, living their lives. And so I'm

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like, It's like the majority of people, you get the ones that are a little

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bit louder because they just need a little help. But a lot of people are

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just. Quietly doing their thing. And so I think it's like that

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doubt in there. I love that. You're right. People

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are just like, we are here now. People are just humming along. I am

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doing well. You know what I would love to do? I know when we. I

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used to come to your house, like, back in the OG days of this whole

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thing. I would. I would love to hear, like, your

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spiel and your. Your approach. You feel like you're

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like. You kind of have a structure to it, or is it just like. Just

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kind of like a conversational type of a stance you take. Try to make it

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a conversation. Because, like. And I tell people this, you know, whenever.

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Whenever we start a thing I say, I always start my visits by seeing if

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they have questions or any kind of topic that they want to focus off, because

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everybody is going to have something that's different and unique to theirs. And I don't

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want to just sit here and say, well, you know, this is what you need

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to do, and I'll do that if you want me to. But, like, I think

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it should be tailored to that person. I think I catch

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people off guard a lot of times though. They're like, oh, I don't, I, I

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don't. Like they need something in their hands to be prepared or saying, that's fine

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if you don't, like, I will and I can get started. I can, I can,

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you know, guide it, but I always like to start that way. But definitely, I

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mean, a lot of people, we talk about again, those kind of like three basic

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things. I'm obviously can rattle off a lot of foods.

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Yeah, that's what I do all the time. It's just rattle those foods off.

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I was impressed by that. So, you know, I try to, I try to kind

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of touch on some of the other base. You know, we talk a little bit

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maybe about exercise. If I talk about the vitamins and things, it kind of depends

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on, on what else going on. I'll ask people like their weight

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history a lot of times just to see where they're coming from. You know, is

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this something that you have been dealing with since you were 8 years old or

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has it been since your last pregnancy? And there's a, because there's a

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difference too in how people have that relationship again with

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food or with their body and, and the struggles that they've

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experienced. You know, it's, that's two vastly different

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patients. So I, you know, even the other day I was talking to

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somebody and I said, you know, it was this, this man, very tall man that

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I was talking to. And I was like, the reason I asked this is because

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your, your issues are different than my five foot one woman. Like,

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it's, it's, you're totally, completely different people. And so, yeah, I

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try to tailor it and have it be that more conversation, but sometimes people just

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want like. Yeah, just, just tell me what to do.

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Yeah, I'll do it. Just give me, just give me the shopping lists and give

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me, tell me how to meal prep and tell me exactly what to do and

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think, please. And can you be there and prepare the meals and buy them for

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me? Okay. I can hardly do that for myself right now, so, you know, I

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know. Well, you got a lot going on. A little bit. Yeah.

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So, yeah, so that's kind of it. But again, we can talk, we'll talk more

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about that. I'll just, I'll just do a consult with you. How about that? Yeah,

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Always virtual, very convenient. And we also do a

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lot of support groups. That's another reason why when you're picking a program, you want

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one that is not going to sleep you and leave you. We are there for

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life again. And we offer every third

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Tuesday of the month at 7pm

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Eastern we go on Zoom and sometimes we'll have a topic,

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sometimes we have a guest speaker. We just had Dr. Irene Tower on

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and that one was the best ever. It was really good. It was really, really

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good. And it talked a lot about her services. So we do have people ask

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all the time about the loose skin and, and we have a whole episode

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and a whole blog and that. So many episode notes and things about

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that. We do opera cosmetic surgery now as part of this one

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kind of comprehensive experience. But on those

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support groups you can get your questions answered. You're

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almost always on them. Almost always on them. We do some that are just

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Q and A's. Yeah. Some of them are, you know,

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let's. Who needs support? Just stop talking. And people, people come on

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camera or people just put in the chat. It's very interactive. Yeah, yeah.

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We have all that. We do that. We're doing some more in person stuff now

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that we have the space for. Top secret

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exclusive by invite only event coming up. Yes. So you'll

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see some of the after and they'll be like wait, I didn't know anything about

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this. That is because we announced it at our last support group.

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So we're doing something really cool. Yeah. So but there will be more things like

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that to come. We have the walking club. Yes. Now at Lake Eola. That

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is really great. So Amber puts that on. There's so many

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things. So these are all things to think about. You know again going back

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to if you're choosing a program, all of these things are things to think about

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and just you know, you want to, you want something you can trust.

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You want somebody that is there for you and

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you know, obviously we hope that that's us for you. But it could be somebody

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else. It could be, you know, maybe you had a friend that's had surgery and

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they had a great experience at their program. I think, you know, firsthand experience is

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always going to be the best indicator. So

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talk to people, ask people. You know, you just have that

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conversation. Very much so. So the three C's are

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fixing. We have a great community. We are very

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convenient. We offer virtual consults before and

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lifelong virtual follow up after. And finally we

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communicate easily. We text. That's it. That's very

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profound thoughts here. There's just summit right up. That's it.

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Yeah. So lots of other questions. We're going to keep diving in but make sure

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that you Join our private support group on Facebook. It's the Body by

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Bariatrics Weight Loss and Bariatric Surgery Support Group. We have over

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10,000 plus plus members in that group. And you can

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get your questions answered on the spot, 24 hours a day by either another patient

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who's been there, done that, felt that, can help you with their advice, or

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we are also overseeing that and checking it out and chiming in. And

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yes, daily. Pretty much all I do is I'm like, heart that, heart that, heart

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that. Amazing. Congratulations. You're outstanding. Outstanding. It's

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Friday, for example. I'm like, oh, face to face. Friday they

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are. Look at the Slim Diaries. I know. Love it.

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Love it. All right, well, then of course you can find us on Instagram at

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the weight loss collab. You can find me at Hannah Schuyler, RD,

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and her at Dr. Dovak. And if you're ready to

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get started with that consult, go to bodybyberiatrics.com we'll get you

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going. Yeah. And we have an FAQ section on our website, too, but searchable

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FAQs and financial FAQs. Hopefully you'll find

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a lot of information on our website. We'll keep expanding upon these

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FAQs, and we'll be back very soon with another

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episode that breaks down even more. Love it. All right, we'll see you next

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time. Bye, guys. Bye.

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About the Podcast

The Weight Loss Collab
A Doctor and Dietitian Dive into Weight Loss, Bariatric Surgery, Health, and Beyond!
Welcome to The Weight Loss Collab, your go-to podcast for expert weight loss tips, wellness advice, and a whole lot of fun! Join Dr. Betsy Dovec, a top bariatric surgeon, and Hannah Schuyler, RD, a seasoned dietitian, as they share successful weight loss strategies, personal stories, and genuine encouragement to make your weight loss journey engaging, sustainable, and full of laughter.
In each episode, they break down healthy weight management strategies, practical nutrition tips, and the science of bariatric and weight loss surgery. Plus, they dive into the emotional side of weight loss, exploring mindful eating, and wellness tips to help you achieve lasting results. With relatable stories and humor, The Weight Loss Collab makes reaching your wellness goals both achievable and enjoyable.
Whether you’re looking for sustainable weight loss solutions, interested in bariatric surgery, or just want to feel empowered and inspired, Dr. Dovec and Hannah bring the real talk, expert guidance, and motivation you need. Laugh, learn, and thrive with your new favorite doctor and dietitian duo as they guide you toward a healthier, happier you!